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[Yousafzai]

Why we need religion?
What are the perposes/role of religion in life?

[princessofnymphs]

AOA
according to me if u see according to islamic perspective or not it is clear dat always an organization is required frm a single person to the millioth of persons -also an organization which is required by a single person or for him/herself is simple as much as u extend da grup of ppl u need extra large n also in some cases complicated organization for da human lives to follow dat organized laws n rules to live accordingly......which then every person hav to respect da laws n contions of dat.....
IN some cases da organization ( to which a state can also b reffered ) made rules according to da culture n traditions of their ppl but in some cases  da organization for his own needs to fulfill does spoil da laws n rules as to make da rules n laws strick for majority no of ppl....
in another case if there is no org then da result would be dat each indivisual will make his/her own laws n rule thus spoiling others rights n benefits....
thus first of all n org is much imp for a system to be maintained .....
so uptil now it is clear dat org or a system to lead a life is of much importance....!!!!
thus if v look at da  history of human life v'll see dat to avoid these things (which i mentioned above) ppl always make an organization or any sort of system but da most effective way to bring harmony b/w da ppl n to make a good n a peaceful life religion have been da most successful way which could b easly implemented....
so uptil now it is clear dat org or a system to lead a life is of much importance....!!!!
hence if u see all da religions u'll find dat most religions or da major religions in da world (most of which hav almost da same teachings to the mankind) r frm da same origin (judiasm-christianity r branches of natural true religion frm da creator ALLAH i.e ISLAM) n thus uptil these first two religions which i  mentioned were present no other minor religion was created by any human such as buddiasm etc
hence also if as a muslim or non-muslim u'll find dat islam is da religion n probabily da 1st religion on earth frm da first day father ADAM(as) was created....
so i think i could best explain uptil there...

[Nice & Naughty]

i think we may need a religion for two main things..
first to understand and explore the mysteries of this world , including Allah , ourselves and many others..

secondly, religion may help and guide us to live our life in a way which wuld have been worst widout it....

last but not least , in this world , v r here for some purpose and to understand that purpose , we can use religion as a guidance for ourselves !

[changul]

Why we need religion?
What are the perposes/role of religion in life?

Yusufzai dear

I hope by religeon u dont mean  'deen', but u mean 'mazhab' by it. After it's clear 2 me, I'll speak a little on it.

[Yousafzai]

Princessofnymphs (Ver hard to spell the way u did), Nice & Naughty and changul, thanks for sharing your comments.

I will comment on princess & Nice & Naughty post later on, let me tell my dear changul,,, yes I meant 'Mazhab' (not maslak). In conversation we may enter to "deen" but the main is "Mazhab".....

princess, I have read somewhere that Allah sent appr. 1,24000 prophets to guide the people. so where are the others? ? ? Moreover, there is difference in Nabi and Rasool,,, if I am not wrong.
As per your comments that ADAM was on religion Islam, probably you are r8 but as of my information, all prophets preach "Tawheed" but "Sharia" is different.

N&N, you are r8 in ur scope but they (skeptic) says it is f9 without religion. Hope u & Moderators will not mind it as  I quoted it for learning purposes.

[princessofnymphs]

I hope by religeon u dont mean  'deen', but u mean 'mazhab' by it. After it's clear 2 me, I'll speak a little on it.

 wah wah wah wah.....
n for u bro yousafzai da topic is goin to be complex.....

[Yousafzai98]

Well I think every nation need a religion to lead a good life .See if there is no religion, there would probably ever where, unhappiness, disaster tragedy .See if some one follows Islam 20 per cent , he will never try to kill some or hurt some one . Same if a Christian follows his religion, he is bound not to involve in hatred and killing.(If he follows his religion according to his holy book)

Same in the case of Hindus, if a Hindu follow Hinduism he is bound not to kill (At least Hindus) .Buddhists don’t believe in cheap killings, brutal attacks and other superfluous activities (If they follow Mahatma Buda coz I have read his rules, He was not that much a bad person, Personally he was very kind person, but may be due to no light (Prophet) in that era he did not embrace Islam.)

So above shows that every nation need a religion to live and to know about the secrecy and ambiguity of the life , to know about the Lord, existence of the universe, to find the purpose of our life , to know the reason why were are here , to seek guidance  and much more.

                                     Yousafzai

[princessofnymphs]

aoa
bro yousafzai
i said almost da same n dat was abt an organization by following religion v'll b organized under one sys n as no religion teaches against humanity so it is good to follow a religion then after dat it comes dat which is da riteous religion or straight from almighty n most merciful creator ie ALLAH.
GOD BLESS U .......[/b]

[Yousafzai]

 wah wah wah wah.....
n for u bro yousafzai da topic is goin to be complex.....

Let it be more complex, some juice will come out..... Hoping for ur more comments, Princessofnymph!....

Yousafzai98, regarding Siddhartha Gautama (Budha),,,, his lifetime was  between 563 BCE and 483 BCE. It is still unclear but the modern research says,,. Islamic history started from the prophethood of Muhammad SWA. we can't say that he was unlightened or idol worshiper. Allah knows the secret  that what he was (right path or wrong) but his teaching are still highly regarded.
As of your at least 20% or so following Islam might lead one to the other side, like killing innocent PPL. Hope u r not hurted,,
I will give u example, one of our fellow was speaking Kalma Tayeeba. One day I asked him why he does so, he replied that once he was being checked in Al-Taif (KSA). The police asked him does he know Kalma Tayeeba, he replied with no. He was slaped for not knowing but for the rest of his life he learned how to speak. Probably the policeman was following 20% of Islam (10% Tabligh) and (10% of Jihad).....


Yousafzai98, charta mind ye na ke....

[Yousafzai98]

Let it be more complex, some juice will come out..... Hoping for ur more comments, Princessofnymph!....

Yousafzai98, regarding Siddhartha Gautama (Budha),,,, his lifetime was between 563 BCE and 483 BCE. It is still unclear but the modern research says,,. Islamic history started from the prophethood of Muhammad SWA. we can't say that he was unlightened or idol worshiper. Allah knows the secret that what he was (right path or wrong) but his teaching are still highly regarded.
As of your at least 20% or so following Islam might lead one to the other side, like killing innocent PPL. Hope u r not hurted,,
I will give u example, one of our fellow was speaking Kalma Tayeeba. One day I asked him why he does so, he replied that once he was being checked in Al-Taif (KSA). The police asked him does he know Kalma Tayeeba, he replied with no. He was slaped for not knowing but for the rest of his life he learned how to speak. Probably the policeman was following 20% of Islam (10% Tabligh) and (10% of Jihad).....


Yousafzai98, charta mind ye na ke....

 Na yousafzai bro na , I wont mind but u didnot get me what i was trying to say .I was actually emphasizing and underlining the true soul of relegion.What i wanted to say following 20 per cent islam doesnt mean what u get , anyhow

 I meant that if some one follow Islam , he will not kill people and will not do any thing which is against Islam and moral values .Now if he follows his relegion fully he wont do any thing bad .

All i wanted to prove is the need of relegion .

                       Yousafzai

[changul]

My dear bros and sisters ( one angry 8 me and the other ma'am)

 Let me first clarify 2 u all that "Deen" (faith) is what was sent by Allah, and "Mazhab" (religeon) is what was invented by humans. In Islam mazhab is called maslak too.

 Now since God Almighty said n Quraan that He sent a Messenger in every society so v cant deny that Budha, Rama, Krishna , Confucius, Socrates etc were all prophets. In the course of history all of their teachings got distorted. So v cant blame them, but their followers shud b blamed.
  Even Islam is not immune frm this concoction. That is y mazhabs came into being out of pure Islam. Ppl of other faiths, or atheists , when they read different versions of Islam, and the practice of 2day's Muslims, form wrong and negative opinions of Islam, in the similar manner as v opine about Budhism and Hinduism. Judaism, was not Judaism when Moses and other great Israeli prophets walked the Earth. It became Judaism after Jews introduced false doctrines, i.e. dogmas , into it. When pure faith has dogmas introduced into it, it becomes religeon. Filter the dogmas off it, and it becomes pure and true faith again.  As Hz Imam Malik once said that the Islaah of this Ummat can only b done if we took it back to initial Islam.  He didnt mean fundamentalism. What he actually meant was that the dogmas introduced into it should be strained out. Mind u, he passed around 2nd century hijri. So you can imagine what Khurafaat got added to Islam in the next 12 centuries.

[princessofnymphs]

Islamic history started from the prophethood of Muhammad SWA. we can't say that he was unlightened or idol worshiper. Allah knows the secret  that what he was (right path or wrong) but his teaching are still highly regarded.

i first of i think bro u shouldn't say like dat !
i think u ppl r goin out of da topic.....

[Yousafzai]

i first of i think bro u shouldn't say like dat !
i think u ppl r goin out of da topic.....

Sister Princessofnymphs, I am feeling what you have felt abt my post. I am not like that. . . .
The word Islam never used in prev "Adyan". If you have proof then I will accept it broadly. If you read my msg again, The main teaching of all the prophets were remained the same i.e. "Tawheed" but "Sharia" is different among the prophets. I will not go into the differences, as it will be diverted to other direction.

The word "Islam" appeard only in Quran and has given distinction too, that it is the only DEEN.
Now as Changul wror has explained too that for each and every nation Allah send Prophets to show the r8 path, so we can't say that Budha, Krishna etc were not prophet.

I am willing to correct the direction of the topic, your comments of correction will be appreciated.

Yousafzai98 thanks for your broader view and clearing your point. I will say mor when see more replies.
 

[changul]

  I m really impressed by the broad mindedness of YZ98. It's good he's against suicide attacks, if I m right.
 
  The meanings of Islam, 'peace' and 'submission' must b lived by us n practice to the best of our efforts. If v say 'peace, peace' and act aggressively and offensively, v don't believe n Islam. Off course v MUST fight a foreign aggression tooth and nail, but within the norms of our sweet and sublime deen. Killing ourselves at the hands of aggressors is something else, and killing ourselves at our own hands is somethin else. The former is shahadat, while the latter takes us into kufr.

[princessofnymphs]

salams...
bro yousafzai
ur right dat word islam is never used before but appeared in Quran only ...but in my post i was also saying   same thing dat da basic of islam ie. TUHEED has been implemented frm da time of adam(as) so da basic of religion or da pillar of religion frm ALLAH has been da same but da laws n rules which allah gave have been changed according to dat era.

[Yousafzai]

In faith (Aqeeda) it is clear somehow that the Basic is "Tawheed" but in laws and rules, i.e. "Sharia" should be follwed so strictly as like "faith"?


From all the above explanation, we found that Religion is required to ease the life and to be st. on the way.....

Do the people without religion are having disturb life or the people who are having religion are disturbed? what are the causes.....

[teriram]

Let me first clarify 2 u all that "Deen" (faith) is what was sent by Allah, and "Mazhab" (religeon) is what was invented by humans. In Islam mazhab is called maslak too.

What is the  basis of your opinion Changul?

[Yousafzai]

teriram, shayid chi changul jawab dar na ki, zaka chi dair wkht yee shavi sa post ye na dai lekalai.
zama pa khyal, da hagha maqsood da woo chi "Deen" juda shai dai, laka "Islam", "Christain" etc ao da mazhab na ye matlab maslak aghastai, laka, "Hanafi", "Hanbali", "Shafee" etc.
Zahira khabara da chi "Islam", christainity waghaira Allah ralegali ao da noor Da Imamano shariat dai...

Zama da di topic maqsad serf da woo chi, hagha khalk chi "Deen" ye na wi, Aya hagha disturb jwand teravi? hagha pa sa qanoon bandi amal kho kavi kana....laka murtad, khudai na mani, kho dunya sara trading kho kavi kana...

[Scorpion_Ali]

Zama sara yao kas yaozey kar kawo Dubai ke indian wo ... Agha ta da Islam pa bara key hum kha kafi ilam wo aao hinduano pa bara key hum .. aghe wey che zama kor wala za mandar ta worama kho pakhpla cherta na yuma tala .. wey che zama mazhab neshta .. nu ma warta ta pa sa yaqeen kai .. Nu jawab key we che zama da para har sara Khudai dey .. Aoo da bal insaan zra khafa kawal na ghwari .. Aoo pa peace sara oseda ghwari .. wey zama khpal da souch dey ..

pa agha time mung 4 kasan nast wo yao chinese da agha hum da yaqeen wo aao sa mazhab ye na wo aao yao bal japanese nast da agha hum dagha yaqeen wo kho wey che maram nu budhist ba mrama nu mung porey khandal da sanga wey za kho ba hasey beya sa nasham kawala nu zama kor wala budhist dey nu agho ba zama sara da budhist agha rewaaj kai ..

Aao agha indian ta da Azan translation hum maloom wooo aao full azan warta warto ..

Nan saba pa mazhab yaqqen na laronkey pa  dunia der zeyath shawey da aghey waja da da che da yawo mulah na tapos kai nu agha ba darta yawo shan masalah kai aao bal ba ye bal andaz key nu tol confusion dey ..Da pa her Mazhab key da chal dey nu zaka waraz ta wraza da na yaqeen laronkey pa mazhab derey ge .

Aoo akhira zamana her sara pa khpal Andaz jwand tera wey .. che sha ta kha khakarey nu aghe ke ye zan ta kamey kara dey wai da lag gunah dey aao che kam ye na ye khwakh jo wai de ke der gunah dey ..

zaba yao bal Story Share ka zama da malgarey agha rata karey wa ..We mung russia key wo ..nu night time yao party la taley nu zama agha malgarey kha sharab woskal .. alta yakhney dera zeyatha we shpa che wey wapas ratlo .. nu der yakh mung la washo ..nu alta da (Soaar )ghwakha kharseda nu wey ma hasey malgarey ta wey che raza da okhro yakhney da da dey ghwakha dera garma ye ..

Nu wey jawab key mata waye che sta mazgha kharab dey .. da kho haram da .. Nu wey ma warta wey ..che was che dey pa botalo sharab skal nu agha sa wo .. wey che mara aghe ke da (Soar) amra gunnah neshta ..

Agha mata wey zamung da khalko khpal Deen dey che da cha kam sha khwakh ye nu aghey ke lag gunah dey .. Aoo che kam ye na ye khwakh nu waye che dey ke der gunnah dey ...

[Yousafzai]

Khabara da da chi mong ta zamong "Deen" pa koma tareeqa da mullah na transfer kigi haghai ki da yaw mullah na bal pa juda andaz present kawi... sa standard ye neshta... yaw ba darta hom hadith quote kavi ao bal ham....
da kho da mulano khabara da...
laka sa rang chi da dai topic sar khat dai, chi mong ta da mazhab(Deen) zaroorat wali dai?
di bandi sa khyalat larai?
Ka noar pasai lag akhwa lard sho, ao da owaim chi aya da deen na baghair muashera sazai dai shi?
da deen laranko khalko ao na laranko pa manz ki bunyadi farq "da lain dain pa haqla" sa dai?

[yousafzai2]

We need religion so as to stay righteous and have morals.On the other hand an athiest (in my opinion) is a disoriented person with no morals.

[khpal kor]

ali wror staso da topic ma study ko.der sabaq amoz dai.
chi muslim mashoom we da plar da wiri holy quran lwali kho chi kala baligh shi da bahana kawi chi zama sara time nishta.da prophet P.B.U.H tol jwand zamong deen dai kho ulmayi kiram da yaw bal da zid pa waja da yaw bal mukhalifat kawi.sok sa wai aw sok sa.......
da her cha khpala marzi da.
dalta kho egypt wala da picture wala t.shirt aghusati we aw as imam monz kawe.zama pa khyal dagha imam pasi monz kawal jayiz na de.
muslim majority daa da chi.....
 1   mong ta da kalmi farz ilam nishta,
 2   sunnat bara ki da ulmayi kiram na tapos kawalo ki sharam mehsoos kawo,
 3   da khor,loor,rishtadaro gawawdyano etc haq khwroo.
 4   chi ghalat kar wako fakahr pri kawoo.
 5   the holy Quran zamong da jwand asal maqsad dai kho mong ignore kadai dai,
 6   Allah irshad farmayi chi zama na oghwarai kho naozubillah mong la da ghukhtalo       
     tariqa na razi.
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