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salam friends
Men as great as Iqbal are born once in centuries. Iqbal was realy a great poet , thinker and statesman .
The greatness of many people is not recognised in thier life time but it was different in the case of Allam Iqbal.He was honoured as a great poet and thinker the world over .He ruled over the hearts of men and gave a message of self respect through his poetry to the youth of today.
Share iqbal,s poem with each other .
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Aik nazar idher bhi .
AFLAK SAY ATA HAY NALOON KA JAWAB AKHIR
KARTAY HAIN KHITAB AKHIR, UTHTAY HAIN HIJAB AKHIR.
AHWAL E MUHABBAT MAY KUCH FARQ NAHI AISA
SOZ O TAB O TAB AWWAL,SOZ O TAB O TAB AKHIR
MAY TUJ KO BATATA HOON TAQDEER E UMAM KEYA HAY
SHAMSHER O SANA AWWAL, TAWOOS O RABAB AKHIR
MEKHANE EOUROP KE ANDAZ NIRALAY HAIN
LATAY HAIN SUROOR AWWAL, DAITAY HAIN SHARAB AKHIR.
Awr phir kabhi sahi
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Yousafzai98 wrora,
what about few ashaar. mean few verses, not a complete poem.
Can I post single shair here.
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Salam swatian
aw aw mara single verse is also allowed here
Every thing related to Iqbal you can post it there .
ab jatay jatay kuch to kehna he hoga .to han sun lo .
A MUSALMAN APNAY DIL SAY POCH MULA SAY NA POCH
HOGEYA ALLAH KAY BANDONN SAY KEYOON KHALI HARAM ?
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PHIR BAD E BAHAR AYE IQBAL GHAZAL KHWAN HO
GHUNCHA HAY AGAR GUL HO,GUL HAY TO GULISTAN HO
TO JINS E MUHABBAT HAY QEEMAT HAY GIRAN TERI
KAM MAYA SAY SODAGIR IS DAIN MAY ARZAN HO .
SAMAN KI MUHABBAT MAY MUZMIR HAY TAN ASANI
MAQSAD HAY AGAR MANZIL ,GHARAT GARE SAMAN HO .
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mita de apni hasti ko agar kuch martaba chahey
ke dana khak mey mil kar guley gulzar banta hai
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Quote from: S w a t i a n on September 25, 2004, 06:39:14 AM
mita de apni hasti ko agar kuch martaba chahey
ke dana khak mey mil kar guley gulzar banta hai
Salam swatian brother
If you dont mind to may app ki islah kardoon
han sure sure u will not mind . coz the great Ghalib didnot mind his Islah.
yeh shir is tarah hay i think . i might be wrong
MITA DE APNI HASTI KO AGAR KUCH MARTABA CHAHAY
KEH DANA KHAK MAY MILKAR GUL E GULZAR HOTA HAY .
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thanx for guidance after all you are the mod here,hamari kiya majal jo aap ki shaan mey gustakhi karey.
you are most welcome for correction.
any way one more from my side.
"PARWAZ RAKH BULAND KE BAN JAYE TU UQAAB"
"CHIRYO KI TARAH DAANEY PE GIRTA HAI KIS LIYE"
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dear Malang Pashtoon
I agree with you, you are 100 % true & right.
but one cannot deny the intellectual role of Allama Mohd. Iqbal, what he has played in the development of thoughts of nation called "Pakistani"
Any how Khushal Baba was a legend & represented Entire Pashtoons, Pashtoons of the whole world.
Lets come back to the actual topic.
"KHUDI NA BAICH, GHARIBI MEY NAAM PAIDA KAR"
"MERA ANDAZ AMEERI NAHI FAQEERI HAI"
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Quote from: S w a t i a n on September 28, 2004, 12:55:43 PM
"KHUDI NA BAICH, GHARIBI MEY NAAM PAIDA KAR"
"MERA ANDAZ AMEERI NAHI FAQEERI HAI"
Well Wishes
Salam swatian once again ISLAH kani paray gi
yeh shir is tarah hay .
MERA MEZAJ AMERI NAHI FAQEERI HAY
KHODI NA BAICH GHARIBI MANY NAM PAIDA KAR
sirf islah say kam nahi chalay ga.one from my side.
BE KHARAT KHOD PARA ATASH E NAMROOD MAY ISHQ
AQAL HAY MAHWE TAMASHA E LABE BAM ABHI .
YOUSAFZAI
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JAB ISHQ SIKHATA HAY ADAB E KHOD AGAHI
KHULTAY HAIN GHULAMOO PER ISRARE SHAHENSHAHI
AY TAYER E LAHOTI US REZQ SAY MAWT ACHHI
JIS RIZQ SAY ATI HAY PARWAZ MAY KOTAHI .
AYEEN E JAWANMARDAN HAQ GOI WA BEBAKI
ALLAH KE SHEROON KO ATI NAHI ROBAHI
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tere ishq ke inteha chahtha hoon
mere saadgee deek kya chahtha hoo
the poet i like. he gave a new diretion to the poetry. A revolutionary poet and was impressed by the pushtoons' ideology. i have heard from my teacher that he took the idea of ''shaheen'' from the pushtoon poet khushaal khan khattak.
NOW here is a question?
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if we have the men like khushaal khan khattak from which the world's top class poets took ideas why we are ignoring them.
like i have a friend in lwargee where the scholer poet and roohani peeshwa AMEER HAMZA KHAN SHINWAREE is buried, he said that the GOVT has announced and finance the HAMZA ACADEMY but still there is no stuff like that.even in the library of hamza academy his own books are not available.
NOW are we ignoring them or we all are just dead.
i don understand it.
wake up friends whats going on to our culture and its traits.
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Salam malang Pashtoon
You are right that Khushal Khan khattak was a great poet of Pukhto , I am 100% agree with you brother , but also you have to admit that Iqbal is honoured as a great poet and intellet all over the world and no one could deny the greatness of Iqbal .
see what he says .
IQBAL BE IQBAL SAY AGAH NAHI HAY
KUCH IS MAY TAMASKHUR NAHI WALLAH NAHI .
TERAY AZAD BANDOON KI NA YEH DUNYA NA WOH DUNYA
YAHAN MARNAY KI PABANDI WAHAN JEENAY KI PABANDI
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Salam Malang Pashtoon, well pathans are called as khans all over the wrold , and as for as this matter is concern that the britain gave us the name khan . so i dont belive in history. I strongly belive i action . and Actions are guided by inner emotion or external circumstances .so this is my inner emotions what i do .and yes i will not call Khushal khan khattak as khan. although he is recognised as Khushal Khan khattak . But any way well try to avoid calling him Khan .
now coming to the point .
Iqbal says
AJAB WAEZ KI DEENDARI HAY YA RAB
ADAWAT HAY ISAY SARAY JAHAN SAY
KOI AB TAK NA YE SAMJA KEH INSAN
KAHAN JATA HAY ATA HAY KAHAN SAY.
WAHEEN SAY RAT KO ZULMAT MILI HAY
CHAMAK TARAY NAY PAYE HAY JAHAN SAY .
HAM APNI DARDMANDI KA FASANA
SUNA KARTAY HAIN APNI RAZDAN SAY
BARI BAREEK HAY WAEZ KI CHALAIN
LARAZ JATA HAY AWAZ E AZAN SAY .
ADAB
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malang jana!
chonke stha sara da khushal baba kalam proth de, no dera maza ba wakee che tha yawo bal lard(thread) khulawo ke, da khushal da shayeeri pa num. mang ba koshish kawo che sa the zda koo..
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Sirf Khushal !!!
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What a big deal man,
here is a thread for you, you can start sharing the poetry of Great Khushal Khan Khatak with every one here.
Click here
http://forum.hujra.net/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=1627
Enjoy !!!
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Salam
Iqbal says
ANOKHI WAZA HAIN SARAY ZAMANAY SAY NIRALAY HAIN
YE ASHIQ KON SE BASTI KAY YA RAB REHNAY WALAY HAIN .
PHALA PHOLLA RAHAY YA RAB CHAMAN MERAY UMEEDON KA
JIGAR KA KHOON DY DY KR YE BOTAY MAY NY PALAY HAIN .
RULATI HAY MUJAY RATOON KI KHMUSHI SITARON KI
NIRALA ISHQ HAY MERA NIRALAY MERAY NALAY HAIN .
NAHI BEGANGI ACHI RAFEEQ E RAH E MANZAL SAY .
TEHR JA A SHARAR HUM BE TO AKHIR METNAY WALAY HAIN.
MERY ASHAR A IQBAL KYON PYARAY NA HO MUJKO?
MERY TOTAY HOY DIL KI YE DARD ANGEZ NALAY HAIN.
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Salam
Iqbal says
ANOKHI WAZA HAIN SARAY ZAMANAY SAY NIRALAY HAIN
YE ASHIQ KON SE BASTI KAY YA RAB REHNAY WALAY HAIN .
PHALA PHOLLA RAHAY YA RAB CHAMAN MERAY UMEEDON KA
JIGAR KA KHOON DY DY KR YE BOTAY MAY NY PALAY HAIN .
RULATI HAY MUJAY RATOON KI KHMUSHI SITARON KI
NIRALA ISHQ HAY MERA NIRALAY MERAY NALAY HAIN .
NAHI BEGANGI ACHI RAFEEQ E RAH E MANZAL SAY .
TEHR JA A SHARAR HUM BE TO AKHIR METNAY WALAY HAIN.
MERY ASHAR A IQBAL KYON PYARAY NA HO MUJKO?
MERY TOTAY HOY DIL KI YE DARD ANGEZ NALAY HAIN.
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Malgaro!
The fault lies in our educational system and curriculum that we are taught Iqbal ,Hafeez Jhalandry,Sofi Ghulam Mustafa Tabbassum etc but Khushal,Rahman,Hamza,Ghani are ignored.This tragedy has created many brain-washed pukhtoons,who are all praise for the formers but know nothing about the laters.Even they can not read a word of pushto.Iqbal has only heard of "Shaheen",but Khushal Baba had kept many of them.He has composed a whole book on them,called "Baznama".He was a practical man,while others only espoused "Dreams".I think Iqbal does not belong to "HUJRA" in the presence of Khushal Khan Khattak.That's all.
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ofcourse iqbal was a part of curriculam, but only to the extent "lab pe aathi hai dua ban ke thamanna ........" pakistan establishment d**n care for iqbal or watever......
his philosophy is worth reading, he was a man of knowledge.
If we r unaware of pashto poetry, the problem is that our elders never care to aware us of pashto literature and the great pashto literary men and their philosophy.
we can not afford to keep ourselves away from sources of knowledge. rather to know wat n where the treasure lies, who knows.
We are free on this forum to discuss the philosophies of our pashto poets.
how many of us have discussed Ghani's philosophy.
give me any one website where any one pashto poet or philosophers work is exhibited.
Tell me who cares to discuss their philosophy or do any research on their thinkings.
dera kha da esapziya,,,
pa ywao stharga kho hase hum rdaanda yoo da bala stharga ba pata koo che tha way....
masala kho daa da che mang har tharaf tha gear yoo...."
ka ghani wayem no yawo me kafir kayee,,,awo ka iqbaal wem no tha me da pukhto na ubasay.....
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chartha laard shoo peera
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I am sorry you took it bad Sadagula! What i was emphasizing that we have pearls of our own but they are lost in the fabricated history.One should keep his eye open and explore them,if your curriculum does not show them to you.I am of the opinion that our Khushal was far better than Iqbal and Iqbal became Iqbal when he followed Khushal.But it was his good luck that he was promoted by fabricated history and khushal stayed at the back because Pukhtuns could not read or write Pukhto.Majzoob is better than Wordsworth but i am sure you would not heard of him.Similalarly we can afford equal matches for all your heroes in Pushto but you should open up your eyes and not close them.KHAFA MA SHE<WRORA!
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Da khafa kedo pake sa khabara nishtha......
I m not biased towards knowledge....
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......and khushal stayed at the back because Pukhtuns could not read or write Pukhto.
Its not coz we cant read pashto,,,,,,,we cant read at all...we dont how to do analytical studies.
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....But it was his good luck that he was promoted by fabricated history
...i m less bothered abt their history as i can read.
and ya we came to know that promotion is a tool, which can b used too...
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Sadagula!
Let me finish it in clear cut terms.We pukhtuns make history but other people write it for us.Our heroes are either tainted as villians or just neglected,because we are a nation of illitrates.But pukhtuns have worked out many analytical masterpieces on Khushal and comparison of Khushal and Iqbal,but alas! we have no pukhtun readers.That's why we are so much blurred by others,who have good luck to have means of media and access to the people.Bya Khafa Na She.
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Khafa Na She
.yaaara da kho baar ma waya..
r these comparisons available on any websites? just wanna study..
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adagula!
Regards. I am afraid i have no idea whether comparitive analysis of Khushal and Iqbal is available on any website.If some interested pukhtun knows about it ,i request him to come forward and lead us to them.However you may find plenty of analytical works on this subject in the Pushto Section of Archive Library near Peshawar Museum and in Pushto Academy,Peshawar University.Please go and dig it out.
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