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[Deucallion]

DEAR BOTHER NEKPEKHEL AND OFFCOURSE SISTER DEUCALLION
                                      SALAMONA

I HAVE A HABBIT NOT TO STEP INTO THE DURT OR GARBICH, IT IS TUFF BECAUSE ONE CAN FINED IT EVERYWERE NO DAYS. MY ADVISE TO YOU BROTHERS AND SISTER ARE, LEFT YOUR FOOT CAREFULLY. AND GIVE ME SOME TIME. I HAVE THE EXACT PERSON TO DO THE JOB.IF THE HUJRA WANT? I PROMISE, BELIEVE ME,  WE WILL DRAIN OUT ALL THE RUBISH WE DONT HAVE ANY USE FOR.

yeah the hujra wants it..............bring the person........

[SWATIAN]

brother swatian abaaseen is the worse of the lot for posting dirty pictures in the islamic section so why have you let him off, he is the most besharam and be haya,suhhar,why can they not be stopped before they do the damage and hurt people,and the ones you band are coming back again,even i can tell you who they are,its easy to tell,wasalaam u alaikum wa rahmatullah.

Dear Nikpehkhel, can you please give me reference of posts where Abaseen123 have posted dirty pictures in Islam section, because I couldn't found such posts & dirty pictures, if its true then I can take action, please justify your post.
Reagrds
S w a t i a n

[Pukhtun*]

salaam brother swatian,i didnt see the post myself but i thought sister sturie meant pornoghraphic pictures,its only now i see from the above post of sister sturie that it was pornoghraphic words, that post was deleated by yousuzai98 of abaseen123,it was in the islamic section,which khob malak started and the thread was "desciplining ones wife.

[abaseen123]

der jahad la ra oowatal, before I am lynched, and the mob drinks my blood, can you please send me those pictures that I posted, as I dont rememember having such a collection that malang has seen me share with my family.

Guys look at yourself, I will just say this much, shame on all of you, and shame on your mob mentality.

Swatian, As far as the use of pornographic words, i did no such thing, i actually used the exact same word in reply that was used the post before. A learned member here called another member as having "issues with your manhood", In my reply I used the word "secure of his manhood". I did not use the word first but somehow my use is pornographic worth "sangsar", yet the ladies use is highly polite and very respectful.

I have never called any one by a name yet mulana hazrat nikpehkhel calls me:

"he is the most besharam and be haya,suhhar".

I particularly liked malang pashtoons reply who without knowing anything adds

"THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THING LIKE THAT ARE NOT HUMAN. PEOPLE LIKE THIS ARE BROUGHT TO THIS WORLD BY ANIMALS, AND I HAVE'NT SEEN AN ANIMAL(YET) TO FEEL ANY KIND OF SHAME OR REMORSE. THEY DONT CARE ABOUT THEIRS OWN FEMALE OR THEIRS RESPECTABLE FATHERS & MOTHERS AND FOR THAT MATTER, SISTERS, BECAUSE ANIMAL DOES NOT HAVE ANY SENSE FOR THE ABOVE. SAD BUT TRUE."

I am happy that I am far away from these lunatics as I am sure they are ready to lynch someone, anyone will do.

[Pukhtun*]

salaam brothers and sisters,malang pushtoon  the khu pe yiru ki pat laal ukoathe,hey abaseen you know exactly what you said,so dont try and hide it now,there is enough proof in that thread which is locked, to show you did say something of the type,be a good boy,and we will forgive you,but dont say anything which is shameful, and  anything rude about islam and muslims, i am not a molana,so dont give me a position i do not deserve,i am a muslim and so you should accept that,if you are not a muslim and are of some other religion,i will accept that,remember what you said in the thread about womens clothing that there were topless women in the time of the prophet(saw),well wasnt that baseless,i would never try and redicule any prophet of any religion,remember that you cant use force to change a persons heart,yes i do call you a suhhar because that is the animal your acting like,a human can become better than the angels or worser than animals,we are the best of all the creation,we have the ability to choose to be good or to choose to be evil,to be evil is to lose and harm your akhirah to be good is to win and make your akhira,so reap the benifits of your own actions,and Allah is seer over all things.

[abaseen123]

..............................,remember what you said in the thread about womens clothing that there were topless women in the time of the prophet(saw),well wasnt that baseless,.....................

Sir I dont talk baseless, here is a sahih bukhari hadith to refresh your memory, remember they are describing the time around 7-8 hijri at haj (you are right they were not just topless but totally naked) from sahih bukhari about men and women doing naked tawaf. (I was just raising a technical point and asking what if this "rasam" of the pagan arabs like the other rituals of haj was also left intact.)

Book 007, Number 2808:
Hisham narrated on the authority of his father that the Arabs with the exception of Hums who were Quraish, and their descendants, circumambulated the House naked. They kept circumambulating In this state of nudity unless the Hums supplied to them the clothes. The male provided (clothes) to the male and the female provided clothes to the female. And the Hums did not get out of Muzdalifa, whereas the people (other than the Quraish) went t o 'Arafat. Hisham said on the authority of his father who related from 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) who said: Hums are those about whom Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, revealed this verse:" Then hasten to where the people hasten." She (further) said: The people hastened on from 'Arafat, whereas Hums hastened from Muzdalifa, and said: We'do not hasten but from Haram. But when this (verse) was revealed:" Hasten on from that (place) where the people hasten on," they (the Quraish) then went to 'Arafat.

akhirath sara ba pa akhirath ki kooroo, here we live with each other, and the question arises whether it will be better to speed your departure to your beloved janath, or to waste time and try to reconcile in the hope of a harmonious earthy (dunyawi) existence. This the dilemma the world is facing today, I am afraid impatient power brokers are opting for the first solution. I on the other hand am still somewhat in the middle.

If you have no answer please dont start shouting obscenities, makes you look even more foolish.

[Agent Nelson]

Mr. Khattak,This is not your Jirga from Dag Ismail Khel. Let me post some of your precious quotes;


"Dalta sta pashan khuendey, maindey shta au  dh tameez wala qadarmandan buzargan hum shta.      Da kanzal rattal, shkanal dh pashto sara na chai"

"spee tameegi, ghapeegi au karwan terigi"

"I HAVE A HABBIT NOT TO STEP INTO THE DURT OR GARBICH, IT IS TUFF BECAUSE ONE CAN FINED IT EVERYWERE NO DAYS. MY ADVISE TO YOU BROTHERS AND SISTER ARE, LEFT YOUR FOOT CAREFULLY. AND GIVE ME SOME TIME. I HAVE THE EXACT PERSON TO DO THE JOB.IF THE HUJRA WANT? I PROMISE, BELIEVE ME,  WE WILL DRAIN OUT ALL THE RUBISH WE DONT HAVE ANY USE FOR.  

THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THING LIKE THAT ARE NOT HUMAN. PEOPLE LIKE THIS ARE BROUGHT TO THIS WORLD BY ANIMALS, AND I HAVE'NT SEEN AN ANIMAL(YET) TO FEEL ANY KIND OF SHAME OR REMORSE. THEY DONT CARE ABOUT THEIRS OWN FEMALE OR THEIRS RESPECTABLE FATHERS & MOTHERS AND FOR THAT MATTER, SISTERS, BECAUSE ANIMAL DOES NOT HAVE ANY SENSE FOR THE ABOVE. SAD BUT TRUE.

THEY MIGHT EVEN SHARE THESE PICTURES AND BAD LANGUAGE WITH THERE FAMILYMEMBERS BEFOR SENDING IT TO THIS SITE. SO IF YOU WANT, (ALL OF YOU) , SEND ME A INSTANT MASSAGE ON MY PROFILE AND PRAY TO ALLAH FOR KEEPING US AWAY FROM BAD MAJLAS OF THESE PEOPLE, AMIN .

VERYTHING IS POSIBLE EVEN TO BRING THEM IN SPORTLIGHT FOR REAL."

"I NEVER MENTIONED ANY NAME  SPESIALY YOURS ( AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE QUOTE ABOVE) IN MY POST. I SAID ""THESE PEOPLE".... THIS MUST BE A FIGMENT OF YOUR IMAGINATION.  HONESTLY I HAVE'NT SEEN THEM BY MY SELF, BUT FOR SENDING  DIRTY PICTURES AND LANGUAGE , WICH CAN BE SEEN AND READ BY MY BROTHERS,  MOTHERS AND SISTERS ACROSS THE WORLD, JUST BECOUSE ONE OR TWO DUMKOFF/STUPID, BIRDBRAIND PEOPLE HAVE THE ACCSESS TO A COMPUTER. BELIEVE ME, I'LL DO ANY THING IN MY POWER TO STOP IT.

MAN TO MAN, DONT YOU THINK WE MUST BRING'M  IN TO LIGHT WITH FULL NAME AND ADERSS AND CURRENT LOCATION?? EACH & EVERYONE HAS A MOTHER AT HOME AND MAY BE A SISTER. IS'N IT.?"


"LET ME GIVE YOU SOME EDWISE. DONT EVER REVEAL YOUR SYNS TO A PERSON. BECAUSE THAT IS  BETWEEN YOU AND ALLAH THE MIGHTY.  YOU HAVE'NT DONE ANYTHING WRONG AT LEAST  TO ME, BUT IF YOU HAD, I'LL FORGIVE YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. THING LIKE THIS CAN BE DONE BY A SIMPELY APOLOGIZING FOR THE (BAD) BEHAVIOUR.
QURAAN SAYS. ALLAH IS WITH THEM WHO ARE PATIENTS."


Mr. Khattak, animals are more innocent, more predictable, more honest, more faithful. "Spee" are not hypocrite and they don't hate you. It will take you several lifetimes to understand that.

Your bigoted mentality, evident from your post, clearly displays your bias attitude.

If you consider yourself a pillar of morality then fairness is a part it. If my above statement is false or your statements are based on misjudgment or ignorance on your part then Gentleman, I must ask, why are you poking your nose into this issue that you know nothing about?

I strongly suggest that you go back and read all the posts by former and current members including myself (Khob, Khob Malak) labeled as "Bad Guys."  We have always raised our voices and spoke against the injustices that sisters, mothers, daughters, poor and weak face in so called "perfect societies."

You talk about not "revealing sins to a person" and it "should be between God and that person." So follow what you preach and stop your unwarranted judgments and let God be the Judge.

If you want to be a part of spreading baseless and totally unfounded allegations which are being thrown around by Sturie and in her footsteps Nikpehkhel then good luck.  

You are very welcome to use your "power" and "BRING'M  IN TO LIGHT WITH FULL NAME AND ADERSS AND CURRENT LOCATION". I recommend that you employ a whole army with different expertise and skills because you will need it. Once you are finished with your project and publish names, addresses and current locations then you can 'issue a call' to your guys around the world(not only the ones in "UK" and "Germany") to fight the 'infidels'.

I promise that I will personally reciprocate your favor by doing something very generous for you and your friends. Believe it or not, I am very excited and anxiously waiting.

[Pukhtun*]

well abaseen you wont get any forgivness cus your still acting in the same way!!                                                                       quote abaseen:Sir I dont talk baseless, here is a sahih bukhari hadith to refresh your memory, remember they are describing the time around 7-8 hijri at haj (you are right they were not just topless but totally naked) from sahih bukhari about men and women doing naked tawaf. (I was just raising a technical point and asking what if this "rasam" of the pagan arabs like the other rituals of haj was also left intact.)              its this type of baseless attitude of yours that we dont like,i have already answered the rest of your question,hey and dont call me sir just make yourself seem polite after that type of poison.

[abaseen123]

deer nikpehkhel, who asked for your forgiveness, that you are holding it back. To me your stance is as repulsive as mine is to you, there is however one small difference. I do not wish you dead for your opinion while you consider it an honourable responsibility bestowed upon you by arab gods to have every non-confirming voice silenced.
Pashtoons need ways of reconsiliation and tolerance with one another, between man and women, between one ethnic subgroup with another, with one religious denomination with another. Your way is a way of further division, its a licence for an agressor (who ever may be dominent at the time) to go ahead and trample on minorities - with more ferocity as God demands it.

[Pukhtun*]

well abaseen,i wish that all the muslims from east to west were one,and that all the muslim countries were also one,and that a person could go from one country to another without needing a passport,i never care if anyone doesnt fullfill my rights but am always concerned about the rights of others,i have no pesonal enmity against anyone,i do not want to be aggresive against anyone,if you have concerns about anything then in a positive manner you could address your grievance to molana fazulrahmaan or Akram khan durrani or the molana at the Allahu AKbar jumaath in saidu and you should take advantage of them because they are here for you,if i was there i would personaly take you to them .

[abaseen123]

well abaseen,i wish that all the muslims from east to west were one,and that all the muslim countries were also one,..................................

Dear Nikpehkhel, the muslims from east or west are not one, neighter is there a homogenous group of peaple anywhere in the world, even a 5 member family of brother and sisters have differences, wishing for oneness is wishing for one opinion to overrule all others, Like in a 5 member family in watan, it is the father who has the final say.

In the twenty first century we have to learn new ways of group interaction, where a daughter can have an opinion, in our example of a five member patriarchial family. Where small subgroups are protected from the wrath and exploitation of the bigger group.

A unified version of Islam, forced down every ones throats is an attempt at imposing the will of one over many, it is to go for hegemony over diversity. In todays world a very weak position to be in. Because in a society of forced subjugation there are many traitors, many looking to outsiders, many willing to do anything to loosen the noose around their necks.

On the other hand a diverse group of peaple in harmony and acceptance of one anothers position know the value of their uniqueness and very hard to sell out to outsiders.

We in pukhtoon land need the second kind of social contract, where a hazara shia, is as respectfull as a kandahar sunni. Where the atheist professor can go ahead with his scientific research in a building next to mulana doing his research on muslim scholars of pakhtun region. Such diversity will provide us with the spectrum of oppurtunities to deal with a ever changing world, a world with more and more cut throat competition by the day.

 

[Pukhtun*]

abaseena when has islam been forced down any non muslims throat? and if we are  muslims and islam is a complete way of life,shouldnt we be trying to practise it??? and why should we blame islam for some bad actions of some individual???you wishing for oneness is wishing for one opinion to overrule all others say, i say why???dont you raise your voice at  europe who are trying there best to do this????and they are not more united families than us and they have already introduced the euro (money), muslim land was one before,a person should be able to go from one country to another without the need for a passport or visa to do business or to work or to live,i dont know whether you know much about history but let me show you a glimps of history and forced ideas,then tell me was it us muslims or islam??  

[SWATIAN]

Please stay to the point & also just read what the issue & topic is all about !!!

Read the main post & reply accordingly.

Za sa wayama aw rabab mey sa wayae.

Regards

[Pukhtun*]

swatia ne mung se weku, the uwaya? i know this thread is for announcements,i am not a moderator and i dont have any authority to tell people not to post unrelated items,but if someone posts something and it's there for a few days what do you think we should try answer them or not until you come???

[Nice & Naughty]

Salam Nikpehkhel..

well its not dat u have to wait for Swatian only..

the moderators r all equal in responsibilities.. but its just sometimes u have to see the

topic n answer accordingly.. no one is stopping u to defend ur religion.

everyone knows the way ppl r treating Muslim and Islam. Discussions r wat u

personallly feel and think abt wats happening around.

n one more thing abt pics of abaseen so m sorry to say dat dere were indeed no such

pics posted cuz i remember very well at dat time i was online n u even sent PM to me.

so i checked at dat moment but couldnt find anything.

[Pukhtun*]

walaikum salaam n&n,yes  there was a bit of misunderstanding it wasnt pictures abaseen had used but words relating to porn,i'll try and keep to the topics,i would just rather do something positive and for the benefit of the people like i havnt been able to do any work on the thread i started condiments of the prophet(saw),than to waste time in arguments.

[magickhan]

Your intentions were good mate but when u proclaimed judgement day and last day it sounded much God like.. much like G Bush crusaders vs saladin.. Mansoor vs the religous establishment.  wish Ghani khan was alive the bad bad guy he would simply walked out from your hujra...if u dont accomadate the bad guys man and want everyone like angels u wont accomplish any good purpose.there is evil rampant in the society. these bad guys will bring and challenge you with new ideas. chay khuday accept bad guys till judgement day how can u muzzle there opinion. seems like the same masher kasher society of pushtuns buss na mannoo.. malgaree grow up and learn from the civilized societies. give them a breathing space embrace them less u find ur hujra a bunch of yes men more loyal more hyprocritical.... upto u mate...

Modified by Yousafzai98.
 
                               

[changul]

well raja mullah, I agree, I quit too. let the thirsty come to the stream for a change.

Deera manana, for banning me multiple times, this time I quit myself. Swatian umbarak sha, its after all your place. you keep it.

Baygham
drrun_pukhtoon
Asadi_khan
skeptic
(all my banned identities here)
P.S. I do predict that this place will be all but dead once the agents leave.

Prophetic words! Arent they? Altho they come frm the mouth of a so-called aheist, materialist and what not.

So I must say,.....no I REQUEST, that 4 the Hujra organisers it is imperative to have large hearts.

[charming.swati]

Dear Swatian!
I Check Your Comments About Kick Out Of Bad Guys.
As You Are Right You Have To Check out On Those Bad Guys And Kick Out From Hujra.
Because There Are So Many Good Guys Are In Hujra With So Nice Nice Messages.
Its So Bad Who Are Posting Bad Messages Or What Ever.
You Please Check On Those Bad Guys And Directly Kick Out All Those Members Who Are Doing This.

THANK YOU

[Spogmai]

Charming Swati or good guy. With departure of people like Abaseen, the bad guys, the spirit of the Hujra has become dead. They, the bad guys, were the people who kept the spirit of the Hujra alive. So rejoice in the company of good guys.

Spogmai

[zahir_buner]

AA. Da Swat da Khaiest Gula C.S, Salamuna. I most humbly advise you to read Abdur Rahim Roghani of Matta Swat. Swatian were not agree over the rule of Swaties so Safi Mohmands ruled them for 52 years. Learn lesson from the past. Present a flower to a naughty member of the Hujra instead of AK-47. I think it will solve the problem. zahir_buner.