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[drrun_pukhtoon]

looba garma da, nice chicken fight going on. The chicken from punjab has floored the opposition with his command of finding loop holes in arabic folklore. Tinga kai.

da yao pal weeni ooskai chi alam dharna pa aman shii.

[Digital-Alak-UK]

digi and mr zindeeq !

you wrote a long story and u wanted people not to read it thats why u always write so long posts and i am sure no one read ur posts.but any way i am the one who use to read coz ur posts and refernces are just stories. there is nothing to belive in .

u didnot specefy any single Quranic aya which clearify that Jesus is dead.(NA OOZUBILLAH). and the refernces u have mentioned is from some where else .

and no one will belive in that.

there is no need to write a long story   just write single quranic aya and  and explain .
and i am sure there is no single aya in quran wich clearify , yes there might be ayaths in Tawrat and Engeel , but the the christains and  jews have modified them so we dont belive in that.

            He is alive and will come back to this world as a Umatee of the Prophet Muhammad (Peace and Blessing of Allah be upon him). there is no question about that.

i wrote a long story bcoz u opened up a long topic.  no story of quran can be explained in 2 secs, u have 2 read n understand many different ayats and put them2gether 2 make sense out of them.
i dont blame u for not reading the posts, bcoz:
1. it proves u r scared of replying2them
2. proves u know not what u say.

u claim i havent written a single verse of Quran 2 prove Jesus is DEAD, wa da zalim bachiya, leg sharam oka, leg ghaiarat oka daoosa, i pasted atleast 10 ayats 2 prove JESUS is DEAD! just go up and read my initial 2 posts over n over again.

and if u still cant find the truth from my posts and quanic ayats, then u know wot, i rest my case.

in quran, Jesus says:

“And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be and hath enjoined on me Prayer (Salat) and Charity (Zakat)as long as I live.” (19:31)
In above verse the words “.. as long as I live..” bear some importance. Jesus is to establish Salat and give Zakat AS LONG AS HE LIVES. Now if we accept that Jesus is taken up into heaven alive, then how is he performing these activities up there? He mentions that Allah has enjoined Salat and Zakat on him AS LONG AS HE LIVES <maa dumtu hay'yaa>. Now some one can say that in heaven he may be performing Salat. But what about Zakat? Are there any Orphans and Unfortunate persons in heaven as well to whom Jesus is paying Zakat? Does God have any poor people in heaven too? Giving Zakat in heaven would say that in heaven there are poor people! Does this make any sense?!

[Digital-Alak-UK]

DIGI man get a job or a hobby hhooooweeeh!!! some long posts there.

And what is that KAHTAM I IMAMIA THING. Is that the holy book of the religion from Punjab?.

lol

man,  u sound like a kid, we r discussing Quranic Ayats and all u can think of is a 2 line punjabi racist post?

da khuday banda, chey domra nar newey no bya dey Islam Islam seta kolo?  ooos shaba kana leg Quran rowchet ka ow ISA ibn Mariam rata jwondey sabit ka kana!  chey pata dey olagee chey somra lwey maulana yeh.

i challenge all of u guys, especially these self-proclaimed maulanas who r good at talking loud n when presented with proof then run, that if any1 of u guys can prove JESUS is ALIVE in heavens, then i shall rest my case.

kho khafgan da dey khabrary dey chey u guys d rather believe a fairy tale rather than listening n accepting for once that u mite be wrong.

[Yousafzai98]

Digi


who the hell u are to say that u compare quranic aya , who  give u the authority ?

And u asked nangyali to prove in quran that Jesus is alive. so why dont u prove from Quran that he is dead?
U have mentioned from the English books. SO Jesus is not like ur Mirza Ghulam Ahmd Harami  .Mirza Ghula harami may has history in ur english books but Jesus is Allah,s messanger and alive.


and dont challanege some untill  u know that

why th harami Ghula Mirza died in Latren ?

he was the one who proclaimed himself as prophet and then died in latren .


and what the hell will u compare quran ayaths. UR MINDS IS sh*tAN,S LATREN , YOU CAN NOT THINK BUT JUST U WILL THINK BULsh*t.
AND YES DONT CALL DAVOOS AND BE GHAIRAT OTHERS.

 UR THE GREAT BEGHARAT AND DAVOOS ALL OVER THE WORLD I DIDNOT SEE LIKE YOU DUMB ASS,

[Nangyalee]

DIGI irrespective of the comments by my Yousafzai friend here I would like to say that by quating books from authers who don't have proper credibility in the West even.

Now as far as Quran is concerned evidance points that Hazrat ESSA is alive and will come back.

Now Durrun Pukhtoon mind it is not Arabic folk lore we are talking about these are facts. Arabic folk whhooowwwweee!! Dude we are talking about Bani Israyeel here not Arabs Arabs had one and only Prophet.

The litracture in Quran and Bible about Hazrat Essa is very similar so there is not need to Bust Arabs on this.

[jabbar mian]

assallam o alaikum

I don,t understand Qadiani/ ahmadi mentality and their aggressiveness .....and I don,t understand that why they try to become "thekay-dars" or sole contractors of Islamic world...??

I read books of Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz...and I recommend others to read his ideology..

Ghulam Ahmad pervaiz denied the whole issue of Jesus being alive ...and according to him ...holy Quran is silent about it....Qadianis are using some "za-eef" ahadiths to support the prophethood of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian (India)...

According to Pervaiz...this concept of Imam Mahdi is a new concept ...and it was introduced by Shia sect of Islam....

According to Pervaiz...Islam is a complete religion...and Holy Quran is available for our guidance...and every Muslim is a "khalifa" or assistant of God on this earth....and Muslims have to solve their own problems ...and they have to give up laziness ...and they have to give up this belief that some body will come from heavens and solve their problems...

He believes in "himat e mardaan...madad e khudda.." ( God help those who help them selves....)

Islam is a complete religion...with one God...One Book...and one prophet known as Mohammad (pbuh)...

I personally think that views of Pervaiz and Illama Iqbal are very realistic..and they are very close to western Ideology that every citizen of state has to be educated ..and every citizen has to be responsible for the smooth operation of life on this earth..I believe Holy Quran is very clear about that...

wassallam

[Digital-Alak-UK]

Digi


who the hell u are to say that u compare quranic aya , who  give u the authority ?

And u asked nangyali to prove in quran that Jesus is alive. so why dont u prove from Quran that he is dead?
U have mentioned from the English books. SO Jesus is not like ur Mirza Ghulam Ahmd Harami  .Mirza Ghula harami may has history in ur english books but Jesus is Allah,s messanger and alive.


and dont challanege some untill  u know that

why th harami Ghula Mirza died in Latren ?

he was the one who proclaimed himself as prophet and then died in latren .


and what the hell will u compare quran ayaths. UR MINDS IS sh*tAN,S LATREN , YOU CAN NOT THINK BUT JUST U WILL THINK BULsh*t.
AND YES DONT CALL DAVOOS AND BE GHAIRAT OTHERS.

 UR THE GREAT BEGHARAT AND DAVOOS ALL OVER THE WORLD I DIDNOT SEE LIKE YOU DUMB ASS,

harami badey agha mor ow plar wee!
*ignored*

[Digital-Alak-UK]

DIGI irrespective of the comments by my Yousafzai friend here I would like to say that by quating books from authers who don't have proper credibility in the West even.

Now as far as Quran is concerned evidance points that Hazrat ESSA is alive and will come back.

Now Durrun Pukhtoon mind it is not Arabic folk lore we are talking about these are facts. Arabic folk whhooowwwweee!! Dude we are talking about Bani Israyeel here not Arabs Arabs had one and only Prophet.

The litracture in Quran and Bible about Hazrat Essa is very similar so there is not need to Bust Arabs on this.

tell u wot, lets 4get english books n lets 4get authors, and lets even 4get ahadith (for a moment) bcoz 1 party mite call them "zaeef".

lets me and u, both grown ups, both educated, both religious, lets stick to Quran.

u prove 2 me from quran that he is alive, while i ll prove 2 u from the same Quran that he is dead, thats a fair deal, isnt it?

we dont have 2 go low like yousafzai, we can discuss any religious issue within the limits of decency and Allah has given us enuff intellect and common sense n knowledge 2 read n understand Quran n make up our own minds.

leme know if u r interested in debating Jesus's death.

Regads
Digital

p.s: may Allah show us both sirat i mustaqeem.

[Digital-Alak-UK]

assallam o alaikum

I don,t understand Qadiani/ ahmadi mentality and their aggressiveness .....and I don,t understand that why they try to become "thekay-dars" or sole contractors of Islamic world...??

I read books of Ghulam Ahmad Pervaiz...and I recommend others to read his ideology..

Ghulam Ahmad pervaiz denied the whole issue of Jesus being alive ...and according to him ...holy Quran is silent about it....Qadianis are using some "za-eef" ahadiths to support the prophethood of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian (India)...

According to Pervaiz...this concept of Imam Mahdi is a new concept ...and it was introduced by Shia sect of Islam....

According to Pervaiz...Islam is a complete religion...and Holy Quran is available for our guidance...and every Muslim is a "khalifa" or assistant of God on this earth....and Muslims have to solve their own problems ...and they have to give up laziness ...and they have to give up this belief that some body will come from heavens and solve their problems...

He believes in "himat e mardaan...madad e khudda.." ( God help those who help them selves....)

Islam is a complete religion...with one God...One Book...and one prophet known as Mohammad (pbuh)...

I personally think that views of Pervaiz and Illama Iqbal are very realistic..and they are very close to western Ideology that every citizen of state has to be educated ..and every citizen has to be responsible for the smooth operation of life on this earth..I believe Holy Quran is very clear about that...

wassallam

thank u for ur post.

i offer u the same deal which i offered 2 nangyalee that we can put aside all "zaeeef" ahadith, we can put aside books n videos, all we ll do is pick up the Quran n prove on this thread in this from ayats our points of views.

i ll prove 2 u that jesus is DEAD and u prove 2 me that Jesus is alive from Quran, fair deal, isnt it?

its strange that what i am saying is a natural thing that jesus like all other prophets of Allah is dead, while what u r saying is that Jesus is alive for the last 2004 years (dono how) in heavens (dono how he tarvelled up there) and that he ll be comin down back 2 earth (dono how).

isnt it for u 2 prove that such an irregular n unnatural and unscientific n illogical thing can happen?

why is it that when i say that  MAN IS DEAD LIKE OTHER MEN, I AM ACCUSED OF BLASHPEMY AND ILLOGIC AND DEVIATING FROM ISLAM!!!!!!

leme know if u r interested in a healthy Quranic Debate on this issue.

Regards
Digital

[Digital-Alak-UK]

in the Quran it never states that ISA (AS) "DIED"

ok, now i dont want to start an argument with you, Digital, but i want to ADVICE you to watch a Debat between Ahmad Deedat, and some arab- christian, (forgot the name), the video is called, "Is Jesus(as) son of God" its a very old video, so enjoy, (being put down)

i ve already replied 2 ur post earlier, but just for the sake of argument, tell me where does in Quran does it state that JESUS is ALIVE?

[Deucallion]

two can play the game of copy/pasting too  

well, just have a little patience, i just came from a vacation to canada, and i'm sorta busy. but dont worry i wont keep you waiting

[Digital-Alak-UK]

two can play the game of copy/pasting too  

well, just have a little patience, i just came from a vacation to canada, and i'm sorta busy. but dont worry i wont keep you waiting

take ur time mate, i shall be rite ere.

[gharsanay]

Immamnu, Talibanu, au  Muridanu  teeng shae  warta...where is  ur  so  called  islamic  knowledge ,che pa  mung  ba  mu  herwakhty  rakhersawoo..islam  akhwa  au  islam  dekhwa..na  mu  da  nekhanay  pata  lageeda  au  na  mu  da  ghashee..ka  mung  ba  yao  sa  wey ,nu  taso ba  zer  islam  radekhwa   ku,  che  islam  dasay, au  mung  dasay, cha  ba  communist  kru ,au  cha  ba  atheist  kru...Mara  hasey  dazey  ba  mu  kawalay..TASO  YAO  QADIANAY  SAR  TA  NA  KRU  NUR  BA SA  TURA  OOWAHEY...
ONLY  Agents  could  answer  Agent Digi,  but you  shamless guys  banned  all  the  Agents, othewise  u  wld,ve never  faced such  shame...Therefore  you  should  request  to  the  banned  agents  to  come  and  confront  agent  digi,  otherwise  u  guys  r  gone..
AS FAR  AS  I  AM CONCERNED  SO  I  DO,NT  CARE , IF  THE  JESUS  WAS  DEAD  OR  ALIVE..
I  WISH  THE  MULLAS  DEAD  FOR EVER ,AND  I  WISH  THEM  CLOSE  TO  JESUS IN  HIS  WORLD.

[drrun_pukhtoon]

dha issa musa kissa preeda. Digi tell me about this moon God of the arabs that they build kaaba for. Wasnt it called Allah, and is that what the prophets father was named after. You see he was "Abdullah" meening Allah's man. Since he was named decades before islam it must have been this other arab God.

i AM CONFUSED PLEASE CLARIFY.

[sadagul]

i m confused myself too,,,
i have always wondered,,
if Allah was the name introduced in Quran ,,,
then how call mohammed father as Abdullah...

but i think it was used b4 that,,,
and they may used it for one God,,,
as one God concept is always there...

Allah is also used in aramic language...the lnguage of jesus,
and the word Allah has not got any plural...

[Deucallion]

AHEM, what did you think Musa,(as) god was named somthing else?, it was Allah, and So Ws Isa (AS) god name Allah, they came for the same messege

 

[Yousafzai98]

Digi


who the hell u are to say that u compare quranic aya , who  give u the authority ?

And u asked nangyali to prove in quran that Jesus is alive. so why dont u prove from Quran that he is dead?
U have mentioned from the English books. SO Jesus is not like ur Mirza Ghulam Ahmd Harami  .Mirza Ghula harami may has history in ur english books but Jesus is Allah,s messanger and alive.


and dont challanege some untill  u know that

why th harami Ghula Mirza died in Latren ?

he was the one who proclaimed himself as prophet and then died in latren .


and what the hell will u compare quran ayaths. UR MINDS IS sh*tAN,S LATREN , YOU CAN NOT THINK BUT JUST U WILL THINK BULsh*t.
AND YES DONT CALL DAVOOS AND BE GHAIRAT OTHERS.

 UR THE GREAT BEGHARAT AND DAVOOS ALL OVER THE WORLD I DIDNOT SEE LIKE YOU DUMB ASS,

harami badey agha mor ow plar wee!
*ignored*

Agent Gigi you have to know that i was on leave for some days and second my computer had some problem thats why i didnot come to hujra ,so i am here now to reply all ur post one by one.
firt reply to ur statment above but  in pashto coz u have written in pashto so here is  ur reply .

zama mor plar kho teek de kho ta de da khpal tol khanadan maloomat oka hagha kho tol sara sta haramian de .confiem yeh ka da haghi na bia rostoo mata gota neesa.
                  I think  now u will be able to understand coz agents always understanding.
 now coming to ur others posts.

[Yousafzai98]

Immamnu, Talibanu, au  Muridanu  teeng shae  warta...where is  ur  so  called  islamic  knowledge ,che pa  mung  ba  mu  herwakhty  rakhersawoo..islam  akhwa  au  islam  dekhwa..na  mu  da  nekhanay  pata  lageeda  au  na  mu  da  ghashee..ka  mung  ba  yao  sa  wey ,nu  taso ba  zer  islam  radekhwa   ku,  che  islam  dasay, au  mung  dasay, cha  ba  communist  kru ,au  cha  ba  atheist  kru...Mara  hasey  dazey  ba  mu  kawalay..TASO  YAO  QADIANAY  SAR  TA  NA  KRU  NUR  BA SA  TURA  OOWAHEY...
ONLY  Agents  could  answer  Agent Digi,  but you  shamless guys  banned  all  the  Agents, othewise  u  wld,ve never  faced such  shame...Therefore  you  should  request  to  the  banned  agents  to  come  and  confront  agent  digi,  otherwise  u  guys  r  gone..
AS FAR  AS  I  AM CONCERNED  SO  I  DO,NT  CARE , IF  THE  JESUS  WAS  DEAD  OR  ALIVE..
I  WISH  THE  MULLAS  DEAD  FOR EVER ,AND  I  WISH  THEM  CLOSE  TO  JESUS IN  HIS  WORLD.

Mr Zindeeq khan . I was on leave thats why i didnot reply .
I am here and will reply now.

YAREGE BA TA AW STA DADA BA YARIGI .MONG TEKHTA NA DA ZDA KARE .KHO TA HAMISHA DA GHAR PA SOKA NAST YE CHARTA BA DA SHADOGANO NA YAREDALE YE .

DA MAGHZO KATWAY DE SKHA SHWA ,PA MULA PASI LAGYA AW PA MAZHAB PASI .LOR DE WRAN SHA LAG SAM SHA , GANI TABA BA SHE HASE HUM TABAH YE KHO .

[Yousafzai98]

 An-Nawwas b. Sam'an reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) made a mention of the Dajjal one day in the morning. He sometimes described him to be insignificant and sometimes described (his turmoil) as very significant rand we felt) as if he were in the cluster of the date-palm trees. When we went to him (to the Holy Prophet) in the evening and he read (the signs of fear) in our faces, he said: What is the matter with you? We said: Allah's Messenger, you made a mention of the Dajjal in the morning (sometimes describing him) to be insignificant and sometimes very important, until we began to think as if he were present in some (near) part of the cluster of the datpalm trees. Thereupon he said: I harbour fear in regard to you in so many other things besides the Dajjal. If he comes forth while I am among on, I shall contend with him on your behalf, but if he comes forth while I am not amongst you, a man must contend on his own behalf and Allah would take care of every Muslim on my behalf (and safeguard him against his evil). He (Dajjal) would be a young man with twisted, contracted hair, and a blind eye. I compare him to 'Abd-ul-'Uzza b. Qatan. He who amongst you would survive to see him should recite over him the opening verses of Sura Kahf (xviii.). He would appear on the way between Syria and Iraq and would spread mischief right and left. O servant of Allah! adhere (to the path of Truth). We said: Allah's Messenger, how long would he stay on the earth? He said.. For forty days, one day like a year and one day like a month and one day like a week and the rest of the days would be like your days. We said: Allah's Messenger, would one day's prayer suffice for the prayers of day equal to one year? Thereupon he said: No, but you must make an estimate of time (and then observe prayer). We said: Allah's Messenger, how quickly would he walk upon the earth? Thereupon he said: Like cloud driven by the wind. He would come to the people and invite them (to a wrong religion) and they would affirm their faith in him and respond to him. He would then give command to the sky and there would be rainfall upon the earth and it would grow crops. Then in the evening, their posturing animals would come to them with their humps very high and their udders full of milk and their flanks stretched. He would then come to another people and invite them. But they would reject him and he would go away from them and there would be drought for them and nothing would be lef t with them icn the form of wealth. He would then walk through the waste, land and say to it: Bring forth your treasures, and the treasures would come out and collect (themselves) before him like the swarm of bees. He would then call a person brimming with youth and strike him with the sword and cut him into two pieces and (make these pieces lie at a distance which is generally) between the archer and his target. He would then call (that young man) and he will come forward laughing with his face gleaming (with happiness) and it would at this very time that Allah would send Christ, son of Mary, and he will descend at the white minaret in the eastern side of Damscus wearing two garments lightly dyed with saffron and placing his hands on the wings of two Angels. When he would lower his head, there would fall beads of perspiration from his head, and when he would raise it up, beads like pearls would scatter from it. Every non-believer who would smell the odour of his self would die and his breath would reach as far as he would be able to see. He would then search for him (Dajjal) until he would catch hold of him at the gate of Ludd and would kill him. Then a people whom Allah had protected would come to Jesus, son of Mary, and he would wipe their faces and would inform them of their ranks in Paradise and it would be under such conditions that Allah would reveal to Jesus these words: I have brought forth from amongst My servants such people against whom none would be able to fight; you take these people safely to Tur, and then Allah would send Gog and Magog and they would swarm down from every slope. The first of them would pass the lake of Tibering and drink out of it. And when the last of them would pass, he would say: There was once water there. Jesus and his companions would then be besieged here (at Tur, and they would be so much hard pressed) that the head of the ox would be dearer to them than one hundred dinirs and Allah's Apostle, Jesus, and his companions would supplicate Allah, Who would send to them insects (which would attack their necks) and in the morning they would perish like one single person. Allah's Apostle, Jesus, and his companions would then come down to the earth and they would not find in the earth as much space as a single span which is not filled with their putrefaction and stench. Allah's Apostle, Jesus, and his companions would then again beseech Allah, Who would send birds whose necks would be like those of bactrin camels and they would carry them and throw them where God would will. Then Allah would send rain which no house of clay or (the tent of) camels' hairs would keep out and it would wash away the earth until it could appear to be a mirror. Then the earth would be told to bring forth its fruit and restore its blessing and, as a result thereof, there would grow (such a big) pomegranate that a group of persons would be able to eat that, and seek shelter under its skin and milch cow would give so much milk that a whole party would be able to drink it. And the milch camel would give such (a large quantity of) milk that the whole tribe would be able to drink out of that and the milch sheep would give so much milk that the whole family would be able to drink out of that and at that time Allah would send a pleasant wind which would soothe (people) even under their armpits, and would take the life of every Muslim and only the wicked would survive who would commit adultery like asses and the Last Hour would come to them. Book 041, Number 7015:  Muslim Sharif

[Yousafzai98]

Sada Gula  we didnot change the subject .
Ur Mureed changed  the subject fom Quadyanies to Jesus .

[Digital-Alak-UK]

An-Nawwas b. Sam'an reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) made a mention of the Dajjal one day in the morning...........................

i can see that u got the above article from sahih muslim bt whats that got to do with the topics under discussion here?

[sturie]

stick to the topic guys, there is already a topic on Jesus AS go post there!

[sturie]

Interesting input from all of u, but also it may be the right time for me to add this is a discussion not an argument.

Affirmation of testimony includes total belief in Tawhed and that Muhammed SAW is the last and final messenger.

I checked Pickthall, Yousaf Ali which use seal and Shakir which uses the word last.

Muhammed is not the father of any man among you, but he is the messenger of Allah and the last of the Prophets 33:40

but for the sake of argument and the fact that I always use the yousaf Ali one, il stick to that, and yes it uses the word seal.

Digi spoke already about the word seal, but to me personally that doesn’t make sense. I read the verse over and over again and with the tafseer. I understand it as a clear reference to ‘last’. Digi u don't, that's fair enough, so im assuming u don't believe that Muhammed SAW is the final messenger of Allah SWT and that any man can call emself a Prophet now? Anway like u said

Those who have rejected Our signs are deaf and dumb, in utter darkness. Whom Allah wills He lets go astray and whom He wills He places on the right path.   6:39**

[Digital-Alak-UK]

Affirmation of testimony includes total belief in Tawhed and that Muhammed SAW is the last and final messenger.

I checked Pickthall, Yousaf Ali which use seal and Shakir which uses the word last.

Muhammed is not the father of any man among you, but he is the messenger of Allah and the last of the Prophets 33:40

but for the sake of argument and the fact that I always use the yousaf Ali one, il stick to that, and yes it uses the word seal.

Digi spoke already about the word seal, but to me personally that doesn’t make sense. I read the verse over and over again and with the tafseer. I understand it as a clear reference to ‘last’. Digi u don't, that's fair enough, so im assuming u don't believe that Muhammed SAW is the final messenger of Allah SWT and that any man can call emself a Prophet now? Anway like u said

Those who have rejected Our signs are deaf and dumb, in utter darkness. Whom Allah wills He lets go astray and whom He wills He places on the right path.   6:39**

thank u for ur post sturie sister.  

now im going 2 crush ur arguments or addition as u call it, lol. i have 5 points 2 make:

POINT 1
u said:

"Affirmation of testimony includes total belief in Tawhed and that Muhammed SAW is the last and final messenger"

what do u mean by "affirmation of testimony", Kalima? or 5 principles of islam?

eitherway, since when has it been a condition for being muslim 2 accept that muhammad pbuh is the last prophet bcoz as far as i know, neither in KALIMA, nor do the 5 PILLARS of ISLAM state that, rite? d**n rite!

affirmation of testimony i.e. kalima states: there is no god but ALLAH and MUHAMMAd is the RASOOL of ALLAH.  (where does it say last?)

POINT 2
majority, and i mean ALOT of quranic translations, be it sunni or shia or ismaili or ahmadi use the word "SEAL" as the LITERAL arabic meaning of "KHATAM" in khatam an nabiyeen.  ofcourse, quite a few qurans as u ve stated have interpreted this SEAL to mean LAST!

but check any and i mean any ARABIC Dictionary or GRAMMAR book and it always defines KHATAM as SEAL!

now the argument whether SEAL is supposed 2 mean LAST or HIGH in AUTHORITY is a different issue which i have explained in depth in my other posts in the same thread earlier.

POINT 3
if we lets suppose take "KHATAM" mean SEAL to mean "LAST", then tell me, doesnt yusaf ali translate the following ayat as:

Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil 2:8

the same word KHATAM in arabic has been used again, and translated again as SEAL. if we were 2 replace SEAL with LAST (as per yousafzai and shakir), then the above ayat wont make sense!!!

last of all, 2 crush the very bottom of ur argument, since u have mentioned Shakir's translation of KHATAM as LAST, i ask u 2 check SHAKIR's translation of the verse :

2: 8 Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing and there is a covering over their eyes, and there is a great punishment for them

strangely shakir has changed his mind and this time round used SEAL for KHATAM and not LAST for the same word KHATAM! i wonder why?

subhanallah, as we can see that there is no contradiction in the words of Allah, rather there is only contradiction in the translations of yusaf ali + shakir!!  sumtimes they define khatam as SEAL and smoetimes as LAST to fit their own theories.

POINT 4
O ye Children of Adam! whenever there come to you apostles from amongst you, rehearsing My signs unto you,- those who are righteous and mend (their lives),- on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve 7:36

why is Allah telling children of Adam i.e. us 2 mend our lives when apostles come amongst us?  if muhammad pbuh was the last prophet, then why is Allah using FUTURE TENSE saying "whenever there come to you"?

POINT 5
ur last point in ur ur post (the ayat directed at me) has been noted, dont even get me started, doora kerey bamey yeh, lol

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Digi

Calm down man your examples dont make any sense.

Muhammad Is the last of all the prophets of Allah and there will be no prophet after him .He was for all nation and for all ages. there is no question about that .shut your mouth up and ddont give me thsese bulsh*ting examples .keep ur examples in ur pocket you cant mislead people like ur father Ghulam Qadtyani .
 He is nothing.  and  dont argu with ur stupid examples .get a life poor man.

            there are hunders and thousands time said in Quran that there will be no prophet after Muhammad (Peace and Blessing of Allah  be upon him )
 blind and sick man   dont try to compare ur own words to Quran and Hadith .